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Be welcome to Cartri’s blog.
This site is a personal blog maintained by a young Brazilian History Student (and also I.T. Technician) and everyone who “joined the boat” – be it by using and reporting back projects’ releases, be it by the debate of contemporary I.T. subjects under a social point of view.
I like to call it “Plog” as it was firstly created as a way to organize and track my projects, as I used to forget about most of them.
With time, I.T. users and technicians around the world got the idea of the site, which – as any blog – is in constant debate of subjects. I try to bring to our “frozen machines” world a bit of historical and sociological awareness and bringing to the end users hands the choices and knowledges about what and how they are using – or some times being used by – technology.
This site has no profit objectives, the main objective of it is bringing over the table technical subjects that most Companies likes to let under the carpet. To agree or disagree with the opinions here expressed are equally the objective of many of my posts: It’s not about liking or not something, but being aware of the social changes brought by the technological revolution, and having an opinion – whatever it is – on this matter.
The Projects are the material realization of such toughs and here shared among news, videos, opinions, history… a bit of everything.
Please be welcome to opine in every subject and project posted!
The Blog is temporarily reorganizing the way it was, in order to let clear that it’s intents were NOT RELEASING STUFF WITHOUT AN OBJECTIVE.
Quick F.A.Q. on the “Mac Edition Bios” project
This Project has as intent to show the world that its naturally possible to any normal person to install OSX into their machines, facilitating the process of doing so by emulating computer environments that will let the user do so easier.
Together with these BIOS/Firmwares comes the real subject:
Apple Inc. (AAPL) has been using many unorthodox practices to over-control OSX and its variants (like iOS) leaving their own public with less choices of hardwares and softwares – what tends to monopoly and, in some countries like mine, conflicts not only with reason and good common sense but also with the law (www.vendacasadaecrime.org.br)
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Hi I would like to get involved it this Project I just picked up a couple boards for testing 1 GA-EP45-UD3LR and 1 GA-EP45T-UD3LR. I also have a GA-EP45-UD3P version 1.6 that I am using right now. I have only been fooling around with OSX86 project for the last 1.5 years but I have been building PC’s since 1997. So I do my way around the hardware. Here is my Email Iam2twisted4u@gmail.com
Hello Fearlessleader, be welcome to our new home!
Your mail will be added as an alpha tester to all the boards above mentioned, and you will soon receive a mail about the new way of alpha-testing we are going to do from now on.
Hello,
i have a small question, i have a EP45T-UD3R, will the BIOS for EP45-UD3R work on it?
if not, are you planning to support my mobo? i dont see it in the list.
thank you
Maybe your motherboard was launched after the project.
Yes, it will be in the list! (No you cant use other board bios on it)
Thanks!!
Hi i buy a p43-es3g and i have flashed this board with your bios follow the guide.
Si
E question
At first boot it go into chameleon bootloader ( i set it to’ wait to’ load osx)
At first boot it boot very speedy no restart or wait.
My USB keyboard Microsoft not work.
I use chameleon rc4 andit not start osx (kp)
I try with my USB pen with chameleonn rc4 and osx install but the USB pen crash my system
It s normal?
hi cartri i have a EP43-UD3L and i can be your tester, i have send you a tweet few days ago.. btw.. very nice site
Hi, got your mail and added there. Are you having the CMOS checksum error with 0.7h?
Yes I do have cmos reset on my snow leopard.. Thanks for adding my email as tester
will your bios work for ga-ex58-u3r boards? I have been told these board work great with OSX86 but I can’t seem to get mine working.
Hope you can help.
For now this project is focused on finishing support for P43 and P45 boards. When im able to build a x58 and a P55 systems (or find a neighbour rat lab machine, who knows) i will then be able to start working on them too
Hello Cartri. I see my mobo (GA-EP45T-UD3LR) on the bios list. Can I safely flash my bios rom now? If it goes wrong, can I replace with a saved copy?
I know spanish and would like to translate the .pdf if you let me know, OK?
I have not read the instructions yet, I just happened to see your project mentioned on a google search result, while I was researching how to get rid of the Orange Icon problem. I am running Snow Leopard 10.6.3 on my Gigabyte mobo and sleep wont work. Occasional freeze-ups too.
Congratulations on this project, you rock!!
David
OH, another thing, will I need to re-intall Snow Leopard after the bios upgrade?
I use the Empire EFI method, and a vanilla SnowLeo disk.
Later,
David
No you dont need to reinstall anything after your bios is released you will only need to update it, and to use a vanilla Chameleon RC4 as the bootloader.
Your motherboard still dont have a bios released for you to flash it, but is in the list and will be done.
Thanks for quick reply. I will keep an eye on your blog and flash as soon as I can.
I will replace Empire efi bootloader with the Chemeleon rc4. Thanks.
David
Just remember that you need the version made for your own board. There is not one modded bios im making, but 40! But we will get there
Hi Cartri,
I have UD3p, DS3L and DS3R. I can be your tester too.
So far, I have 0.7m on my DS3L running 10.6.3. Everything works except sleep. Need some suggestion on what to fix that.
I will try to update 0.7h to DS3R and test it either today or tomorrow. Thanks!
Hi My Name is Thomas Ellis and Here are my specs EP45-UD3P bios rev.1.6 8GB G-Skill @800,Q6600(upgrading soon),PNY 9800 GTX+,(upgrading soon)Asus Wifi&Bluetooth,2 tera HD, I love what you are doing and if you need help testing anything please let me know I have been on a mackintosh for over a year and half (I believe it should be called a Mackintosh and not a hackintosh but oh well…lol oh and I have a Corsiar H50 cooler, I have a few questions about my rig this build which I followed Life Hackers Guide and everything is working great only have had 3 Kernel Panicks and that was due to flash I believe. So I will be waiting as long as long as I have to for the UD3P bois Thanks for your hard work
Hi, Cartri — thx for getting the EP45-UD3R out. Can I continue to use the two JMicron SATA ports (the purple ones) in AHCI mode, as I do now with Asere’s 1.1.9/Chameleon bootloader? I don’t need or want the IDE capability — I’m all AHCI now.
Thx, Dick
Blessings,
very inspiring work you are doing.
I have an EP45-DS3R and I would like to help in the testing. Out of curiousity, if I have a dual-boot system with WIN 7 64x on another drive, is your modded bios going to prevent or disrupt the ability to have both systems?
Best,
JP
Never, thats the difference of the modded bios idea and other hack methods: its made to Work on windows 5.1 (XP) and superior, Linux 2.6 and up & Mac OS 10.4 and supperior
Keeping full compatibility with modern acpi OSs is not a will but a NEED for each release.
Hey dude, where are you from? Nice to know that a great biosmodder like you live in my country! Take care in Rio. I’m from Natal-RN and waiting for a GMA 4500M driver with full QE CI support =) (i’m watching this thread: http://miud.in/3Pm)
Yes, i guess our country is finally showing the world that we exists. I think in how much time we lost from 68 till 88… but now its time to show off that the world 9th economy (and 9th army) can not be treated as a 3rd world country. We do have brilliant minds, brilliant culture, a great history – already having been the capital of portugal, an empire, etc – and great culture.
Its time to unearth our culture, our history, and our dignity and also go forward to new techs and development.
PS: did you seen the news that after spiting on Sergio Cabral’s invitation and donation of portuary zone to Apple, now Apple is negotiating the fabrication of ipods, iphones and macbooks in brazil trough Foxconn in Manaus?
We gonna get there, i guess we are no longer the country of the future. Its quite Present now.
Yeah, i read about that.. it would be awesome for us brazilians. Cartri, what’s your nationality? Why are you living in Brazil?
Cause I am Brazilian.
Did live in Portugal for sometime, indeed, but i was a child.
Quer dizer então que eu não preciso mais escrever em inglês? =P
Hello
i have CR400 MSI laptop , can you help me to install osx 10.6 on it ? do you have a patched bios for it ?
if you need bios file i will send it to you
thanks
I would like to be a beta tester. My board is GA-EP45-UD3P. I have been building and hacking computers since 1987 with my Amiga 1000, PC’s since 1998 and Hacintosh for about 2 years.
Gary, are you already on the alphas? have you seen the recall made?
No I am not. My bios is the original gigabyte bios I think FD.
First of all, thanks. I love to see projects like this, where is clear that final status is to learn and to share.
I have an EP45-UD3R with 0.7m installed. I’d like to Alfa test.
Yesterday I put my system to sleep, and today in the morning, while trying to wake it up, the system started to try to wake up puying all mobo leds on and off forever. So I reset the system and when restarted, an error saying that the CMOS data was corrupted appeared.
My extensions in the /e/e/ folder are:
JMicronATA.kext
SuperVIAATA.kext
fakesmc.kext
LegacyHDA.kext
VoodooPowerMini.kext
My install method was MyHack
Just wanted to report this case.
Thanks
Fred, the latest compiled bios – alpha or not – on your motherboard is now this one.
try reinstalling it being sure to use Chameleon RC4 installer v3 and being SURE to RESET CMOS ENABLED and aslo to have KEEP DMI DISABLED as stated on the manual
You’re doing amazing work, keeping your target group in mind and simplifying the whole OSX-on-a-pc process. Certainly if you’re also planning to integrate the bootloader.
I can’t wait for a release for my motherboard!
Keep up the good work!
I cant wait too to have the table fulfilled with 1.0 and all goals reached!
Thanks!
Hi. I have a GA-EP45T-UD3LR mother board, and over this last weekend took the plunge. (my wife freaked out that I was “breaking” our shared home pc… “Again.”)
It worked perfect. I guess it took less than 10 minutes total.
I had to tweek the HD boot sequence, which gave me a scare, because Chameleon didn’t show up on the first boot; however fixed that, and like magic, I was up and running.
Sound, sleep, etc. all are perfect.
This is a great project!!! Thanks for all!
Thank you for making me smile before sleep.
This is really awesome stuff!
Question: I know you mention adding Intel support. Would this include a board like mine:
DQ45EK
Link:
http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/dsktpboards/dq45ek
Thanks!
Josh
No josh, adding intel would be for X58 and only maybe P55
This may seem like a silly question, how ever, I just wanna confirm it! I know you wrote NO “P35 or P41″ boards….Does this also mean No EP35-DS3P?
Would be happy to help in anyway..
Cheers
Nevermind…Its all about ICH10…I get it!!
Yes, it includes ANY P35
Hi Cartri,
i just wanna express with that, BIG COMPLIMENTS
at first for the spirit that u have in doing that things
and THE INCREDIBLE RESULTS and help that u are able to share with others.
As soon as possible i also will donate; hope that many and many would do it.
letni
Thank you for the incentive! Much more will come!
Hello Cartri!
More I read about the project, more I see his incredible your work here!
One question: After loading the bios 0.7m on P43-DSL3, I can install a
Original DVD of Snow Leopard 10.6.x from company on I work? Need
change some else on Leopard as in OSX86?
Thanks!
Grande Cartri! Você é Brazuca!
Falha de atenção minha! 
Não fique irritado comigo, desculpe se estou chovendo no molhado com as perguntas que fiz. Tropeço no inglês e acabo repetindo as perguntas, falha minha, sei que seu tempo é curto para responde-las. Se preferir, lime os posts anteriores.
Como disse, fantástico seu trabalho aqui, demais sua iniciativa.
Tenho acesso a uma P43-DSL3 versão F8, gostaria de saber apenas se poderei instalar o DVD do Snow 10.6 que usam no trabalho ou se terei que comprar um e utilizar com a nova bios 0.7m. Já estou experimentando um Leopard cheio de kexts e patchs (iPc 10.5.6), vale a pena instalar um DVD do Snow “limpo” com ela na Gyga?
Obrigado mais uma vez!
você ainda vai precisar do emulador de smc do netkas para snow leopard, e de um cd de boot e do instalador do Dr. Hurt Chameleon RC4 v3.
Em sumo: a bios não vai bootar o dvd, mas se você usar um bootcd com apenas o emulador de smc e o chameleon, o resto deixa com ela.
O pessoal ta trabalhando num bootcd especifico pra bios exatamente para instalações novas.
O bootcd vai servir para dar boot no dvd original do snow leo.
Perfeito, Cartri!
Então com esta bios atualmente pode-se testar uma distro como menos kexts, mais limpa com menos intervenções nas configs do SO, seria isso?
Ficarei acompanhando o blog no aguardo do cd de boot!
Um abraço obrigado!
Hi Cartri,
does your bios support OSX 10.5.8 ?
Thanks
Yes, all OSs since 10.4 and winXP. Use chameleon RC4 v3
Hi Cartri, I am running an EP43-UD3L and am willing to be a tester for your 0.7n if it is ready for that board. I don’t even care if it runs Windoze
. I have done some of my own DSDT mods but it was all cut and paste from different sites. Great work…
Greg
Cartri,
can you please point me in to page on this website where it is explained WHAT is this all about? What is done or what will be done doesn’t help. There is no single word of explanation why would anyone use your products?!
On the other hand, the website has no contact details, there is no way that anybody can contact you directly.
my email is mr_W@mindnever.org so if you don’t plan on putting any info online, can you please send it to me personally?
Thanks,
Vladimir
Hi Vladmir, any post done is a direct contact with me once this is a blog, its just a log of my projects. The pdf is highly informative on the bios project, the ac downloads are also explanatory.
And i dont consider any bit here a product, im not selling anything, just freely distributing AS IS my achievements, opinions, etc. What exactly are you trying to understand?
Thanks for this informative response,
for the start, I wouldn’t ever consider going to ‘Downloads’ section without first knowing a bit more about the project. However, now I know that there is ‘PDF’ and I must conclude that it could be in Downloads section.. How would anyone else know that? I’m just talking here about the usability of your website, not about your BIOS work
Should I also mention that I’m not just a random web surfer, but also software developer so this kind of disability for project (yes, project should be better word than ‘product’ – my mistake, sorry!) bothers me a little bit.
I just wanted to make a suggestion to make your website a bit more structured and accessible.
Kind Regards,
Vladimir
Thanks, Vladimir, im one of the most disorganized persons i know.
thats why the site theme is a messy desktop, makes me feel home, but is not as half messy as is my own desktop, hehe.
I hope I will find time to structure the blog better… this FAQ is all but complete, its a copy and paste from a post made somewhere.
Hello – I was one who donated with paypal to you – the same as I donate to MANY other special interest tech websites.
I see your new donation tab and request you remove the comma so people are not confused.
$5 maybe should be listed as just 5
because
$5,00 looks like $500 as many other western countries use a period to end a monetary amount and comma to simply organize it. Please see example of this period vs comma at http://store.apple.com/us
I 100% support you – I just dont want anyone to get afraid when they see the number and become unsure if its $5 or $500
Keep up the good work Cartri !
From an ex- CA.com employee that had an office in Brazil.
Thank you savadius! For your support and your tip, ill take off all the ,00 from the numbers! And paypal will release the funds in october so you did not donate in vain.
Thanks again for your kind words.
Dude, your site sucks. You need to tell us what this all means for it to be useful – I’m sure you are doing good work, but WTF is all of this and what does it do?
It is not focused on people who can’t understand what is implicit, nor for those who can’t use proper vocabulary
Jimmy – Honestly, if you actually read and researched before you posted you would know what it was about.
Hi Catri, I stumbled on your website and I fully understand what you are doing and can follow it easily. Ignore morons like Jimmy who are not considerate to your work and do not take the time to help themselves. I am sure 99% of the people that come to your site significantly appreciate your generous work to the community.
For Grammar Nazi and Jimmy. You do understand that this is a Brazilian site. I’m sure that if you make your requests in gramatically correct and properly punctuated Portugese, the owner will provide you with the proper response.
It is just a blog, and its public is IT professionals and cyberactivists, i (miniscule) dont pretend to lose my focus when writting from a phone because of the incapacity of some to understand the obvious above the already explained broken english language. Claro que se em bom português, me torno, senão um bom orador, melhor capaz de me expressar.
Acho bastante pífio e apelativo trazer a este nível quaisquer debates, daí o comentário deletado.
Merci Jim, Je pense que nous n’avons pas de repindre celles qui n’ont pas culture pour argumenter plus que grammatique des extrangers.
me pergunto quantas línguas falava o dito cujo…
In my opinion, the site is excellent as it is. If one searchs for Cartri’s BIOS in the Internet he knows exactly what he’s looking for. Otherwise, he shouldn’t even try to findit. This is not a commercial website, it’s an extension of the OSX86 community for P43/P45 Gigabite motherboards owners. All the information needed is provided by the manual found in the download section.
agreed
(thank you)
Hi Cartri
first: big sorry 4 my bad english, i am from austria
Congratulation for this perfect projekt.
I using a EP45-UD3LR, small overclocked, and 10.6.4 now after 2 days hard work
yesterday i make on the motherboard a original bios update and now my timemachine backup is damaged (i think i have another mac-adress after the bios-update)
now i want to install the system new and i whant to use YOUR fantastic mac-bios
can i change later back to the original Gigabyte Bios? i also use windows 7 on a second harddisk with cameleon, i think this is no problem?
thx 4 your help
Franky from Vienna
You can use any windows or linux after and including WinXP and Linux 2.6
So no problem with windows, and yes, you can always go back to original bios, these both doubts of yours have been a priority since the beginning
hi, cartri.
about your ex58 board, which brazilian online store did you buy from?
Plug Informatica
http://www.pluginformatica.com.br
It was very hard to find, it was almost if this board were running away from the country!
But you can still find it and its clone board “EX58-Extreme” (same board with same bios) on Mercado Livre (local e-bay) but very expensive…
You are intresting on P55 motheboards to work?
I have GA-P55M-UD2 and can do some tests for You.
Yes I ambut first I will finish with the X58 ones
Hello Cartri
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This is intended for you only.
i.e. NOT for yr blog.
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Do all neighboring countries in
SthAm /América do Sul / América del Sur / Sudamérica
have similar issues with extravagant pricing ?
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Is pricing, driven by import duties, or other factors too ?
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Is purchasing in an adjacent country to any advantage ?
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Is cross-border importing of small items, in ones & twos, problematic ?
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How strong (comparatively) is you local currency,
against the USD or the Euro
(Just so that we can calculate the extent of the problem)
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We to, in my country pay far too much,
for some technology items,
but usually only in Bill G, &/or Steve J.
is somewhere in the process.
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If an item comes directly from Taiwan or Japan & Korea
usually we do not pay silly high prices,
only if MS or A get involved.
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We are interested because
maybe we can use the benefits
or our experience
to sugest alternatives (?)
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Rgds
New Zealander
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Hello!
Almost all neighbor countries have the same taxes, the ones that does not suffer the same incoming rules here: bringing a item from Paraguay or from USA without paying the taxes is a crime in anyway.
Our currency is different for people “Parallel Dollar” and for companies, i better explained that on the topic http://cartri.net/blog/328 . But here we calculate 2 for 1. 50 cents of USD is our Real now… but government has not much control over it anymore (when they had, a Real valued 1,20 dollars!).
Just purchased a EP45-DS3R, am willing to be a tester if needed.
Great work on what you have done already!
Ok, all installed fine, bios updated and a fresh 10.6.4 installed with no problems at all apart from 1.
On boot it detects the USB keyboard, then it loses it at the chameleon boot loader (2.0 RC4). At which point I need to plug in a PS/2 keyboard to select my osX partition. Once I am in 10.6 it detects my keyboard with no problems. Any ideas??
Once in
hey cartri!
first of all: thanks for your hard work!!!
i’m on a EP45 DS3 with your 0.7m BIOS. I want to share my experience and test ur BIOS!
at first look – everything seems to be working fine. But:
network and graphic card are not recognized correctly. graphics don’t support res change and qe/ci and none of the network cards are workin. Hope you have got some hints for me.
Without your bios graphics and network are detected correctly. (graphics + network enabler via chameleon) So what to do now?
greets from germany
xzeroGx
Hi Catri
Just want to thank you for this project – I will give it a go over the next few weeks as I get time and if you need testers I am willing but I am sure by now you have enough.
I also have an MSI P43 or P45 NEO board if you want it, I can’t remember off hand as its sitting in its box in the cupboard at home (I will ship it to you free if you are interested) – I ripped it out last week and bought a P45 UD3R just so I could run OS X as I had read in many places the gigabytes are best for OS X and now I find your website – awesome!
Graphics Enabler of v0.8 built in Chameleon didn’t work with my Zotac 9500GT (512Mb DDR2). It works with standard RC5 Chameleon. Any help?
hi,
I have left my email in this form.
I am a student, I know less on hardware but I have some knowledge on BSD. I have a motherboard GA-EP45-UD3. I hope I can help you on testing your bios.
Hi cartri,
hi buy a new p43-3s3g. I power the mobo and enter in chameleon to see if it work.
After i download your bios package and flashed the bios follow your guide but i have problem.
At the first start after logo it say
Verifing dmi pool data and Update success.
After it seem hang, blocked. After 30 min. i forced restart and enter in bios, set evrythink and restart.
if i had a pen drive with osx installer it hand at start, if i had a hd with my osx configuration it hand. to not hand i need to start withoud hardisk or pen drive.
I reflashed and try an other time. But i have the problem. when i add a mass storage with chameleon and osx it hand.
there was an exception. a pen drive with nbi +osx install work.
where is the problem???
At start can i disconnect my hd ?
or i need to wait 1 hours ???
so help me please.
now i m in this situation.
i used my pendrive with chameleon to installa osx in hd (it’s the one that it work).
I installed it but the drive not work now…if i connect the boot hang
the mobo is flashed and reflashed.
what to do.
flash and try the first boot withoud hd
and then go into bios to change setting?
Or wait and wait and wait with hd
?????
Ok i us the boot cd and install it and it work.
I installed clic and i see that cpu freq not change
No speedstep?
The system is working well
At start in -v i not see any error message evrythink is ok but i think speedstep is not working
Hi, Thank you Cartri doing this for us .!! I just flashed my board EP45-UD3LR everything went fine but I lost QI and CI for my vVidia 9400GT. I tried everything possible.
, I tried all new kexts like NVEnabler,NVinject,Natit,
) Any Ideas.
I removed : dsdt.aml,mkext, all Gforce , NVidia related kext from S/L /E,
I use 10.6.4 /Extra folder contains only 3 required .kext from your PDF.
I tried Efi Studio 1.1, I made a new apple.boot.plis with correct string, I disabled / enabled
GraphicsEnabler,I tried arch=i386
I editet info.plist with my ID. Nothing helps. Still no resolution change and QE/CI.
Sytemprofiler shows correct Graphic Cards.
I have no MF Idea what to do else
Thank you very much. all the best to Brasil …I love Bossa Nova
How do you boot in 32bit mode?
arch=i386
Hi,
I am mac user from Indonesia.
If I want to be your alpha tester, how to join that?
I have Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Maybe you need alpha tester for this board.
My programing basic is not good, but I could follow your instruction on my friends motherboards (P45-UD3L) and it is working.
My X58A-UD3R now running macintosh using kakewalk, and work great.
Maybe I can help you to become your tester.
Regards
Faro
what do you need from ubuntu live-cd ? to learn much more information for you usage ?
I realize 1 bash script who can update & install (ubuntu and debian pkg) in live_cd under “try mode without installation”
so i can add sub-script for your usage with readmefile to explain whatever you want & how to mail or transmit to you.
actually return verbit && codecgraph translation from audio dump
all aml & dsl file from acpi_dump
so i can add lspci wathever you want or more
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Hi
thank you. it is really a cool thing to get rid of dsdt. doest this mean i can simply upgrade my snow leopard server 10.6 to 10.6.4 ? everything works perfectly now, i dont want to ruin it
Hmm, I have no experience with server on Mac Bios, i only use it in a Frankensteined real mac. For the normal system you can just combo update to 10.6.4 with no problems, but please, if you can, make a backup of your install and try the COMBO update, it should run just fine in theory, but is not tested. If you are going to test it on Server, please, post back your experience and also your motherboard and bios version.
Information and testing is never enough
Vc mudou de msn? conseguiu resolver aquele negócio que tinha perguntado?
Respondido por e-mail.
HI, I have a GA-EP45-DS3R when you need testers for that board!
Thanks for all the hard work
Paul
Incredible work
Thanks a bunch , this is exactly what ppl that love macs but want more options need . Not to mention mac friends with tight budgets .
Dont forget to pickup a retail snow leopard , apple deserves the profit for a well made OS we all like and (hopefully) use
Thank you, thats the idea